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Nov 26 2009

Stop Being Naive Haters

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What’s up with all the dubstep haters? I’m coming across a lot people who are unnecessarily aggro towards it and it’s odd.

Is it just too much of a departure from the current music climate of bad electro remixes and bedroom mashes from trust fund kids getting their parents to buy them Ableton and Serato? Could it be that a shift towards dubstep is too much to handle for those who are completely invested in a genre that is probably having difficulty finding new ways to be inventive? Or does it just seem too weird?

I don’t know the answer, but it’s probably a combination of things.

Sure, I can appreciate that dubstep is dark and spooky (believe me, Caspa and Rusko give me nightmares sometimes too), but you’re being naive if you aren’t recognizing the influence dubstep is having on next level music production on both indie and pop records. Everything from Rihanna, Major Lazer, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga… the list goes on and on.

Sooooo, haters… don’t be afraid of the unknown. You know those weird new sounds you’re hearing on that track you like? Yeah, those ones. It came from dubstep.

Drop The Lime – Devil’s Eyes (Diplo’s B-Live Mix)

Bassnectar – Cozza Frenzy (Z-Trip Hellrazor Remix)

Deadmau5 – I Remember (Caspa Remix)

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Tags: Bassnectar, Caspa, Deadmau5, diplo, Drop The Lime, Dubstep, Flores, Z-Trip
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12 Responses to “Stop Being Naive Haters”

  1. By Crafty Tap on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    It’s a south london thing……

  2. By The Dub-le on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    It is true to say dub step is providing a lot of influencial style changes for a lot of artists, but I think the main thing putting people off at the moment is its relatively unknown audience. Without poeple knowing who they can associate with through this style, people (I feel) are afraid to brave the new in fear they may be rejected. But Dubstep to your point should not be feared, it is a welcoming scene.

  3. By colera on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    if that is indeed where music is headed I’m moving to Latvia, no offense Flores…

  4. By Flores on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    no offense taken.

    don’t misinterpret what i mean though… music is not headed in that direction but there is definitely an influence that is obvious. i’m not sitting in a dark dungeon listening intently to dubstep, but i’m appreciating that there is a shift in what has otherwise been a stale music landscape.

    i don’t care what your opinion is, just have an informed opinion.

  5. By Mink on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    The majority of people I know that hate it resent the bandwagon jumping. Primarily the absolutely godawful bedroom producers releasing horrible poorly produced music and infecting dancefloors with their awful inability to mix well (not just talking about beatmatching here)

    I love dubstep, fucking adore it. But there is an absolute torrent of shit being released. And a new breed of dayglo skinny jean kanye glasses wearing neeks at raves that I want to slap…”Yeah rusko’s well sick inneee”

  6. By Cam on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    I think the genre’s popularity will be a flash but it’s stylistic influence will last. My only problem with is is sometimes I feel like you hear one song, you’ve heard the catalogue. Not enough variety. I’m no hater though.

  7. By Flores on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    yessss and that’s exactly what I’m getting at… sub-sub genres are so derivative that the only way it can stay relevant is to use its best elements in a different context. and i fully agree, there isn’t enough variety for it to sustain itself as a genre for very long, but there will have to be some sort of spinoff created accidentally…

    on a related note, remember drum and bass?

  8. By Crafty tap on Nov 26, 2009 | Reply

    There’s always gonna be haters.

    IMHO if you’re a real lover of music then you will generally find at least something you like in most genres and will continue to do so as time goes on and music changes. If you only like “bangers” then you’ll probably be listening to “bangers” for the rest of your days – Who are the losers here?

    Intelligent jungle anyone?

  9. By Noah on Nov 27, 2009 | Reply

    I’m happy to hear dubstep influence in pop and popular dance music these days, but i don’t think the throngs of dive-bar going youth of Vancouver are going to quite be all over it anytime soon.

    It seems to have more or less run its course in London, but suddenly the music blogging hordes, having taken what they wanted from house and electro, show up to the party 5 years late.

    Plus, if you’re only use to 4 on the floor, it’s hard to dance to (especially if you’ve beend rinking, as opposed to belonging to a more dubstep appropriate drug culture).

    To be honest, I’m weirded out by it gaining any real traction in North America in the first place, at least outside of the little dnb/ragga/dub/post-ravey “underground” scenes, but I suppose every couple of years someone will try to market something in the 2-step/garage/grime/whatever continuum internationally (hey, remember Lady Sovereign? Daniel Bedingfield? Craig David?).

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